"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
06/16/2016 at 00:43 • Filed to: None
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"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
06/16/2016 at 00:43 • Filed to: None | 5
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I like it, wish I could find more pics of it.
Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/16/2016 at 00:55 |
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De-chrome the front end and I could dig it.
Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/16/2016 at 00:57 |
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A local chevy dealer had a single cab short bed Silverado sitting nice and low on some Z28 wheels with some fat tires. I was in love.
The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/16/2016 at 01:00 |
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I love lowered 2wd trucks. Ram 1500 R/T’s look bad ass with 2" front/4" rear drop.
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HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
06/16/2016 at 01:16 |
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When I was seling cars at aChysler dealership we had a red Tradesmen single cab short box, the only options on it were a 5.7, and a limited slip 3.73 rear end. It was hot.
CRider
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/16/2016 at 01:52 |
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Because who doesn’t want a pro touring GMC Sierra HD crew cab?
PartyPooper2012
> The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
06/16/2016 at 06:22 |
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ok... tell me your secret... why did you drop rear lower than front?
Wouldn’t you want the front lower than rear? Load in the bed means your rear would get lower... plus when you’re not loaded, and you brake, most braking occurs on front anyway...
I am so confused why
OPPOsaurus WRX
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/16/2016 at 07:36 |
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wouldn;t pushing the wheels out like that destroy all the ball joists and stuff like that that has a very specific weight alignment?
it does look cool thought, almost looks like a dually front and rear
Noah - Now with more boost.
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/16/2016 at 07:50 |
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That gmc looks so good!! Like a brand new hot rod.
Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
> PartyPooper2012
06/16/2016 at 08:13 |
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It is still probably higher than the front. The rear is set a bit higher than the front from the factory.
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PartyPooper2012
> Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
06/16/2016 at 08:16 |
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ok then. Otherwise it looks like a boat at speed and I don’t understand that look.
BReLp7dzHM3ytYsE
> Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap
06/16/2016 at 08:20 |
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How though? Silverado has six-lug hubs and the Camaro rims are five-lug
handyjoe
> PartyPooper2012
06/16/2016 at 08:39 |
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Aesthetics. And if you never load the bed, you probably don’t worry about it. Your braking point is valid but a proper kit doesn’t change your braking dynamics.
If I only loaded the truck once a year, I’d level it like this.
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handyjoe
> Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap
06/16/2016 at 08:39 |
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HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> OPPOsaurus WRX
06/16/2016 at 08:43 |
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Naaaaah.
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PartyPooper2012
> handyjoe
06/16/2016 at 08:44 |
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I must be trucking wrong. I had a Suburban and I loaded that thing up with crap every weekend. If it wasn’t mine, it was my relatives’ or friends’. You’re telling me you don’t put anything in the bed? ever? Why even have the truck then??
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HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> CRider
06/16/2016 at 08:44 |
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#autocrosscrewcab
BigBlock440
> PartyPooper2012
06/16/2016 at 08:47 |
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A RWD V8 for $25k. If you don’t look at it like a truck, it’s easier to see.
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PartyPooper2012
> BigBlock440
06/16/2016 at 08:58 |
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I suppose that’s one of many ways of looking at it...
Last I priced out some pickups, once I added steering wheel and lug nuts, it added up to 45K or worse.
Plus with a truck you get higher center of gravity and MPG sucks when you’re DDing it.
Milky
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/16/2016 at 09:24 |
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I like a different kind of widebody.
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> PartyPooper2012
06/16/2016 at 09:31 |
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I hate to say it, but it’s style over function. Lowering the rear more than the front makes the front and rear wheel gaps look similar. Yes, the rear will sag more under load, but let’s be honest, who uses lowered trucks for work?
At any rate, you can get pneumatic helper bags that will keep the rear from sagging lower under load, so you can still run that sweet, sweet static drop.
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BigBlock440
> PartyPooper2012
06/16/2016 at 09:43 |
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That’s why they’re lowered....
And they wouldn’t be any worse than a V8 car, especially a lowered short bed with an 8-speed. In truck form they’re in the low 20s, drop it a bit and and you could easily see another 2-3 mpg. Single cab short beds aren’t that heavy either, 4,500+ lbs, or between a Charger Hellcat and a Bentley. It’s not something I’d buy, but I can see the appeal, especially when Chrysler was running the “Free Hemi upgrade” deals a few years ago. Spec it with a 3.92 and limited slip, it’d be decently quick.
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PartyPooper2012
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06/16/2016 at 09:44 |
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I’m not saying you’re wrong. It just doesn’t compute for me.
Spend money to lower truck... then spend more money to make it loadable truck... all to make front and rear wheel gaps look similar.
Don’t you get that same look by just loading some boulders in the bed? Free boulders from side of the road plus extra grippy because weight.
Side effect - rattling
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PartyPooper2012
> BigBlock440
06/16/2016 at 09:47 |
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Again, I am not saying you’re wrong. I was always under impression that the object of the game is to get a vehicle for the job. If you want to go fast, get a sports car. If you want to haul shit, get a truck.
I understand what you’re saying and not arguing your points. just saying this is all news to me
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BigBlock440
> PartyPooper2012
06/16/2016 at 10:00 |
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Throw a hard cover on the bed, and you’ve got yourself a 400 hp, V8, RWD 2-seater sports car with an oversized trunk. It’ll run a 14 second 1/4 mile stock. Since there’s been a big lack of affordable V8 RWD cars, the smallest, lightest versions have become the go-to (though it seems like it’s mostly Dodges, don’t see many Fords or Chevys). It’s completely useless for most things people buy a truck for, but much better at other things. If you stop thinking of it as a truck it makes more sense.
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> PartyPooper2012
06/16/2016 at 10:02 |
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I mean, let’s be honest here, there is no practical reason to lower a truck. It’s for looks. And it’s totally subjective; lowered trucks really rub some people the wrong way.
But you can say the same for lowered cars; unless you’re racing on the weekends, there’s no practical reason to lower them. It’s just for looks.
So while lowering the truck to make the wheel gaps similar doesn’t strike you as a good enough reason to lower a truck, in all honesty, it doesn’t really have to - it’s an aesthetic you just don’t get, and that’s okay.
That being said, just throwing extra weight in the back to achieve the desired wheel gap will make it handle like you threw extra weight in the back (go figure). A properly lowered truck will ride/handle close to how the factory intended, perhaps a bit better by virtue of the fact that you’re using aftermarket components. And for what it’s worth, if you do it right, you’re only spending money on/installing a suspension kit once, since you’ll seek out the one that already incorporates all the necessary components.
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PartyPooper2012
> BigBlock440
06/16/2016 at 10:05 |
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cool. this explains majority of trucks on the road. not saying they are lowered, just babied.
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PartyPooper2012
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06/16/2016 at 10:07 |
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If it’s the looks you’re going for, I am ok with it. I always thought of a truck as a truck for trucking things. I can see why people use trucks for non truck stuff tho
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Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap
> BReLp7dzHM3ytYsE
06/16/2016 at 10:14 |
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I wasn't really sure.i figured they were custom wheels to look like Z28
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Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap
> handyjoe
06/16/2016 at 10:15 |
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That's it. The one at the dealer was just like this but in white.
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BigBlock440
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06/16/2016 at 10:21 |
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I disagree. I don’t like lowered trucks and would never do it myself, but there are practical reasons to lower it, I can think of 2. The first and biggest is fuel economy, you could probably net an easy 2-3 extra mph highway with a lowered truck. The 2nd is for a lower bed height, if you’re not going to be loading it to max weight. Also, adding weight to the bed usually makes trucks ride nicer, and the bumps smoother. Overloaded and it’ll feel squirrely, but if it’s still under the rating, a bit of weight on the rear axle makes a noticeable improvement in ride quality.
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BReLp7dzHM3ytYsE
> Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap
06/16/2016 at 10:21 |
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Either way I'm sure it looked sick
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> PartyPooper2012
06/16/2016 at 10:33 |
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Truth is, most people use trucks as commuter cars, grocery getters, and baby haulers, that can move a couch once in a blue moon, on the very rare occasion that you you need to move a couch. But the interiors are increasingly like a living room on wheels, and they offer that false sense of security and superiority on the road, plus it bangs that “Murica! Fuck yeah!” button everytime you get in and turn the key and hear all eight cylinders burning gas at an alarming rate, all so you can do the same mundane things you’d normally do even if you didn’t have a truck, because you really don’t need a truck to begin with.
/end Ridgeline argument
If we only bought trucks for trucking things, you’d see maybe a tenth of them that you see today. And they would all have ladder racks and contractor phone numbers.
But we are not a nation of “need”, and Victoria McSoccermom will damn well take her pickup truck (with four full doors) to go get Starbucks before she picks up the kids from summer daycamp. And she will put $60 in the tank tonight before she needs to drop the kids off tomorrow, because 12-15 MPG isn’t going to get her far.
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PartyPooper2012
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06/16/2016 at 10:42 |
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It’s gonna be really hard to make nth256 for President banner.
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handyjoe
> Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap
06/16/2016 at 10:50 |
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Which dealer? I’m curious to see if its still available.
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Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap
> handyjoe
06/16/2016 at 10:54 |
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If they still had it it would be a dealer in Birmingham.
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> BigBlock440
06/16/2016 at 10:58 |
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First off, for the record, let me say: I love lowered pickups . Something about it just looks so contrary to their purpose, and yet so incredibly right at the same time...
That being said, for the 2-3 mpg you gain by lowering a pickup, you could easily gain 10 mpg by switching to a different type of vehicle. About the only exception to this that I can think of off-hand, would be a cross-country car hauler, where your mileage is your work, and lowering the truck wouldn’t necessarily affect it’s ability to do work. Plus, if you’re lowering it primarily for looks, then adding extra weight in the bed just to level it out will negatively affect your mpgs.
On the topic of lowered bed height, you have a great point that I didn’t consider. A lowered pickup is far easier to load from the ground. But so is a cargo van.
But what’s the reason they make pickups with a higher rear end in the first place? Why is it that they ride better with a small load over the axle? Because they were designed to haul stuff on a regular basis. They were designed for work . The ass-end of a pickup is the business-end.
The discussion here is that lowering a pickup is really more a matter of aesthetics than anything else. Are there positive side-effects? Sure, but they’re small at best.
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> PartyPooper2012
06/16/2016 at 11:01 |
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C’mon! I’m no worse than the choices we have now.
Leagalize weed and prostitution!
There, better?
Are you saying that I out-partypoopered you?
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PartyPooper2012
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06/16/2016 at 11:07 |
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Just chanting nth256 nth256... it’s an awkward thing to try and shout at a rally. Do we spell it - En Tee Eych Two Five Six? Or is it Enth Two hunnit Fiddy six? It’s unclear... like all other politics.
I’m glad you’re all for Legalizing weed and prostitution. Both are pro jobs and if we tax those right, we can work on decreasing national debt. NJ senators are already working on legalizing these so they can pay for roads in the state of NJ.
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> PartyPooper2012
06/16/2016 at 11:13 |
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Never been to Jersey, but from what I’ve heard, they will really need a LOT of weed and hookers for those roads!
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PartyPooper2012
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06/16/2016 at 11:22 |
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even with weed and hookers and heroin and everyone growing poppy seeds and selling an ounce for a billion dollars, NJ will still be broke. There is sooooo much corruption. Sooo much stealing going on, it baffles minds. I come from old USSR and I thought that place was corrupt. Boy was I wrong.
Politicians in NJ tax whatever they can... steal whatever they can.. and call it tax to repair roads. Repair Roads is the state slogan. state bird is the steam roller and state song is I’ll be working on a rail road...
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> PartyPooper2012
06/16/2016 at 11:26 |
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I come from old USSR and I thought that place was corrupt. Boy was I wrong.
This... holy shit.
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PartyPooper2012
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06/16/2016 at 11:30 |
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yeah... NJ is worse than you think.
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BigBlock440
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06/16/2016 at 11:33 |
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Yes, you could gain more by switching to a different type of vehicle, but then you’d be driving a different type of vehicle.
then adding extra weight in the bed just to level it out will negatively affect your mpgs.
Also not true. pickuptrucks.com runs yearly test and comparison tests, and often the fuel economy portion shows that loaded mpg is higher than unloaded.
As for a van being easier to load, no, you can’t reach over the bedside of the van, you can only load from one side or the rear. A truck you can load from 270 degrees. There are many people complaining that trucks are too tall and bedsides too high these days, lower than factory alleviates those complaints.
You say it’s purely for aesthetics, and most of the time it is, but you can’t say that’s the only reason to do it. I know a guy that lowered his 2" solely for fuel economy. Different people have different priorities and needs.
Also, I disagree with your ladder rack comment, lots of jobs for pickups would be a pain in the ass with a ladder rack.
TheHondaBro
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/16/2016 at 11:35 |
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screw cab?
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HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> Milky
06/16/2016 at 12:57 |
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Those Mintuars are awesome. I wonder when they'll make one with a hellcat engine. A Mintuar Hellcat Ram just sounds scary.
JRapp: now as good as new again
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/16/2016 at 15:16 |
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I prefer a different kind of wide-body Sierra myself...
swaptastic
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/17/2016 at 01:04 |
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I found the company that makes the kit https://www.facebook.com/honeyd.officia…
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HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> swaptastic
06/17/2016 at 05:27 |
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Cool. I just saw their Tundra last night on apperently Rutlage Wood owns one.
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PartyPooper2012
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06/17/2016 at 08:54 |
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Saw this: made me think of you... RWD for 25K
http://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/5632985309…
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> PartyPooper2012
06/17/2016 at 10:06 |
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I ran out and bought it this morning! I’m in it right now, behind Victoria McSoccermom in the Starbucks drivethru.
She’s looking maaaaad jealous in the mirror right now.
But I may have clearance issues in a second. Drat! If only I’d lowered it first!
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PartyPooper2012
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06/17/2016 at 10:55 |
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let out some air out of tires... that will lower it...